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Dr Gill RichardsPerspectives, ‘Voice’ and power

Dr Gill Richards


(Biographical Notes)



Background
In the past, the perspectives of professionals and those with power dominated decisions about children. In particular, the ‘voice’ of disabled children and adults was not valued, rarely heard and not deemed ‘reliable’ (Mason, 2005).

As a whole, developments in our education system still rely heavily on those whose powerful views dominate and in the face of increasing numbers of initiatives, schools struggle to meet changing requirements. Such developments are often supported by ‘research’ that continues to assert professional and powerful perspectives rather than empower learners.

If we are to genuinely listen to learners we need to consider how to seek, value and respond to, a wide range of perspectives. Public bodies are now expected to engage actively with those who use their services. ‘Insider perspectives’ are crucial if we are to move to provision and support that is based on actual, rather than perceived, needs.

Reflecting on practice
When considering general education practice it may be useful to reflect on these questions.
➢    How does power operate in the UK education system? Who makes key decisions?
➢    How are ‘user’ voices sought and responded to at a national level?

When considering our own and establishment practices about learners, further questions could be considered.
➢    Where are your own perspectives about the quality of learning in your setting drawn from?
➢    How does power operate in your setting? Whose ‘voice’ dominates?
➢    What strategies are used to gain perspectives from those ‘hard to reach’ voices?
➢    Who represents whom? Who selects the advocates? Whose voice is presented?
➢    Who selects which voices to hear?
➢    What questions are asked? Who decides? Who listens?
➢    How are conflicts of perspectives resolved?


When reflecting on professional/establishment communication strategies it might be useful to consider further questions about practice.
➢    Who controls the conversations?
➢    What language is used? Is it accessible to everyone?
➢    Can learners with communication difficulties express ‘unfiltered’ perspectives?
➢    Are all views recorded?
➢    Are opportunities for giving perspectives unthreatening and accessible?
➢    How do those who give their views receive feedback?
➢    Do individuals have the right to refuse to give their views?

What this means for individual staff
Listening to all learners helps us to get things right for them, doing this from the position of an informed, rather than presumed, knowledge base. This can only happen if we ask the ‘right’ questions and provide an encouraging environment for collecting pupils’ views. We do not always have to say ‘yes’, but we do need to provide a context that clearly places a value on what pupils have to say and is seen to be responsive. Inclusive schools strive hard to reach those pupils that may find it difficult to engage with this process and face with confidence the challenges that will surely arise. Inclusive teachers understand that the process all starts with them, who they listen to and what they do personally in response.

Dr Gill Richards 2009

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Child's voice

Posted by marion craven at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
Hi
My research project has looked at the child's voice in a different way, through their behaviour. Many children can't express why they are finding their learning difficult and thus use behaviour as a coping strategy - I certainly did when I didn't understand why I couldn't spell or read like my friends, yet I seemed to understand things that they didn't (but that didn't count). I spent most of my school life either disguising it or escaping it. However many children have their behaviour diagnosed/ supported rather than their learning difficulty identified. But poor behaviour is a cry for help even though as children we are not sure what for.
Neil Alexander-Passe did an interesting research project into 'Pre-school unidentified Dyslexics' and found five types of behaviour- 'Progression, Suppression, Aggression, Depression and Repression'. In my research project into the identification of children with working memory impairments I found quite a few children at 8 years old demonstrating behaviour issues as Neil Alexander-Passe described, and yet the teacher had not considered a learning difficulty.
I feel that schools need to 'listen' to children in more than one way as we can't all verbalise our feelings.
Marion

Child's voice

Posted by Gill Richards at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
I agree with you on this. How often do we hear that children have learning difficulties and behaviour difficulties? Could it be that because the difficulties encountered with learning are not addressed, frustrated behaviour is the response?
As to the need for schools to 'listen' in more than one way, I agree that this is so important, especially when you consider learners with complex/profound needs who may be very limited in any kind of response, but still may have very strong feelings about what is happening to them.
It would be good to cover this with trainee teachers.

Marion

Posted by Hyacinth Rose-Manners at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
I can identify with you I am dyslexic I will love to read Neil Alexander- Paees resaerch. Did you get it at the MDX library? I can not understand how to use the library to date. My dyslexia I suppose I will love to use without it I am so limited. My Athens pass word and user name does not work. For us dyelexics it world have been so much nicer to have one pass word and user name for logging in to every thing on the course. This course seem not dyslexic user friendly to me. If you can help I will be greatful. Help has assisted me a few times they may be fed up with me. I need to use the library. There was to be a discussion on the library access I taught I missed it as I had no internet access for two weeks but Pauline says it has not happened. The barriers to learning for me on this course are many, but I enjoy what I can do with the prayer that we will help each other and things will get better, I remember doing other distance learning courses where the literature was sent to you I have never done it as a fully on line copurse before, and we assisted each other by scanning pages to each other. But with time we will see. My voice as a learner Laugh Hya

Neil Alexander-Passe

Posted by marion craven at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
Hi Hya,
I accessed this research from the internet from SpLD-Matters.com, it didn't have a date so I emailed the author and he gave me premission to source it and said he wrote it in 2006. I haven't used the library as either I have brought the book or got information from the internet- probably for the same reasons as you. I total agree with your sediments and have spoken to Ruth on many ocassions. However the thing I find most frustrating is the isolation of on-line distance learning. I need to explore my thinking by talking before I can write it down but found after an initial period of time students' input tailed off and then areas like this disappeared.
I am doing the SEN module having started in Oct 08. I am currently working on unit 3 but this feels like an endless mechanical job.
Thanks for listening
Marion

Neil Alexander-Passe *** thank you

Posted by Hyacinth Rose-Manners at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
Marion thanks a new web site for me I will look great networking thanks Hya

Learners Voice

Posted by Hyacinth Rose-Manners at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
We have Inclusion Development Programme for teachers as they include students with dyslexic tendencies but I have seen where these students with dyslexia do not have a voice or are afraid to have a voice. What or how can we as teachers give the learners a voice in their own and lift their self esteem.
Types of inclusion as co-teaching, team teaching, differentation teaching etc. guides our pedagogy but do we educate these students as to who they are? How can we do so? Especially dyslexics whose characteristics seem so suttle to even some educators that they havivg a voice seem few and far between.

Learners Voice

Posted by Gill Richards at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
I think this is a really important question - firstly in relation to how do we prepare learners to have a 'voice' and secondly as you are talking of a group whose observable characteristics may be minimal, additional arrangements for them to use their 'voice' may not even be considered.

Preparing learners to confidently say what they want/feel reminds me of the training I received many years ago about preparing learners to become self advocates. I realised that you can't suddenly offer an opportunity for choice or to contribute to feedback etc to learners without the skills or experience to do so - in these cases it is just tokenistic. Learning to speak out is a skill like any other and may need to be taught/nurtured first.

Many learners with a label such as SEN, LDD etc are often used to having others making decisions for them and eventually it can become comfortable to continue to do this - easier for those with responsibility (no problem decisions to deal with) and learners are not left with making uninformed decisions and having to cope with the consequences. I learned to teach decision making and speaking out within any 'taught' session, starting with very simple choices/asking for views onthings that had no real consequences and building up as confidence progressed, always praising that a decision or point had been made rather than what had been said. Fear of 'getting it wrong' or upsetting teachers is often a concern for learners who would rather say nothing in these situations - so we all need to think how we can get the message across that we really are open to hear and more importantly, respond to, learners' views. If establishments respond with action to feedback and do not become 'upset' when faced with criticism, this from my experience is usually a good start.

interesting and surprising voices!

Posted by Christiana Kefala at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
I ve been reading all the comments and it seems to me that most teachers here have been doing one thing or another to listen to the pupil's voices. What i ve found extremelly interesting and sad at the same time is what's being done about the voices heard. In the setting i work in, pupils are given chances to have their voice heard.Unfortunatelly, it is very rare that what they are saying is actually "HEARD"! Pupils complete questionnaires, pupils have advisors where they can discuss what they like and what not but nothing ever really changes! So my point here is if you're gonna listen then be ready to consider and act, dont JUST listen!

I commented again but it is

Posted by Hyacinth Rose-Manners at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
It is up to the top don't know how it got up there scroll up please

interesting and surprising voices!

Posted by Gill Richards at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
Christina
You are so right - I did a national project with colleagues for the LSDA on 'Responding to learners views'. We looked at lots of great ways that colleges listened to their learners but generally what thye did was not so good, so they were left with frustrated learners. We did some great projects with them on 'response' and learned a lot
Gill

interesting and surprising voices!

Posted by Christiana Kefala at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
That would be great to have here because it feels that by listening but not acting we are having completelly opposite results. Students who will do it their way since they cant do it through discussion!

Ethos of the classroom

Posted by rgreen2 at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
 Gill, thank you so much for all of your helpful comments. Reading all of this has been fascinating from the perspective of responding to learners' views. It has also made me reflect on how we ensure that pupil voice is central to quality first teaching. It is vital to promote a culture where children are encouraged to say when they don't understand and to be positively supported to articulate their level of understanding.
 I am seeing more and more of this work being done in primary classrooms where children feel able to say 'Can you clarify that for me 'or 'I'm not quite sure about ....' This is vital for pupils with SLCN but this good practice is also helpful for all pupils to feel supported with additional explanations or alternative ways of information being presented.
Of course for many pupils it is difficult for them to identify what it is that they don't understand and we need to be constantly building up this ability to self monitor and be able to express that from very early years.
Maggie Johnson's work encouraging children with severe language impairments to identify levels of understanding is really worth a look.

Ethos of the classroom

Posted by Gill Richards at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
Ruth
What I find interesting and personally important are two main things. Firstly, we need to provide an ethos where learners are confident to say what they really think - often they are scared of upsetting staff and in doing so, 'making things worse'. So we have to think about our own responses -it is easy if all is going well and comments are positive, not so easy if there is criticism!
Secondly, when schools say that they give pupils a voice - on whose terms? Do schools set the agenda and are meeting 'controlled' by a senior member of staff, so that pupils only have voice about things schools what to hear about, rather than what pupils want to tell them about, and who gets asked - are 'difficult' pupils really asked about their experience of the school 'world and does what they say make any difference?

Ethos of the classroom

Posted by Jessica Jacob at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
That is so true. "on whose terms" as much as one tries to convey that the students voice must be heard. I still find what is being practice is at the the educators terms. The best way to approach teaching and learning is by listening to to child. What are they getting from the information so that we as educators can adjust our methods to achieve the goals we have for the pupils' acquisiton of information.
It's like going to the doctor. How is the doctor able to help if he isn't listening to us communicating our symptoms.

Ethos of the classroom

Posted by Jessica Jacob at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
That is so true. "on whose terms" as much as one tries to convey that the students voice must be heard. I still find what is being practice is at the the educators terms. The best way to approach teaching and learning is by listening to to child. What are they getting from the information so that we as educators can adjust our methods to achieve the goals we have for the pupils' acquisiton of information.
It's like going to the doctor. How is the doctor able to treat us if he isn't listening to us communicating our symptoms? It is silly to give a flu gab if all you need is an ointment for a rash. Is it all for the sake of looking good or truly catering to the need of the individual?

Ethos of the classroom

Posted by marion craven at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
Hi Jessica,

Your comments brought back an incident where the child was crying and becoming very withdrawn within class. The teacher said that his literacy intervention wasn't helping. As part of exploring his concerns I used the child friendly questions in 'Index for Inclusion' and found that he had no friends in his class and didn't feel part of his community to which I addressed with his teacher. He is now much happier and talks to others.

As part of the IEP reviews I developed a IEP review report card which coverered questions about the intervention in place. For one child he wanted to have more support and this was then used as evidence of his 'voice' in his Annual review.
I found both of these methods a way of exploring children's thoughts from their point of view and not jumping to my own conclusions about their concerns. Marion

Ethos of the classroom

Posted by rgreen2 at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
What a lovely example. Often the child's view at the Annual review doesn't lead to any changes for them and its great to hear of examples where a difference is made. I often keep the child's sheet at the front of my work so that I remember what he said. We still have a lot of work to do to keep the voice of children central to our interventions on their behalf! Ruth

Ethos of the classroom

Posted by Hyacinth Rose-Manners at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
I was out of it for a while but this discussion has made us teachers more aware of the voice of the student and to remember we play am important part in creating the ethos of the classroom. Many other teachers say we have to reach we have no time to have the student tell us what to do we are the teachers. Marion that example of having the student heard then acting on it would have sure make the teacher more comfortable relating to that student when teaching him. We who understand and see the importance of acting on the student voice expressed must do so and other teachers will join us as they experience the benefits.
There is my friend sister in Califonia who is a consultant for understanding black children in the classroom. this story is exactly what we are talking about. She was called to a school to work with a child who had been months from the Caribbean and was not settling into school in USA. The student was uncoperative figgity not producing not attaining OHHH. She met the child as as she always do asked the child some opended leading questions and learnt that she (the student) has to wear boots it was winter and it was confinding claustrophobic and she did not like it. she advised her to come to school in them then change into sneakers while within the classroom. It worked the child was happy. Listening to the voice of the child and acting on it.
No one believed I could not spell in schools I was told "you are the only sister who can not spell" The voice of the child ignored.

Ethos of the classroom

Posted by Jessica Jacob at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
That is so true. "on whose terms" as much as one tries to convey that the students voice must be heard. I still find what is being practice is at the the educators terms. The best way to approach teaching and learning is by listening to to child. What are they getting from the information so that we as educators can adjust our methods to achieve the goals we have for the pupils' acquisiton of information.
It's like going to the doctor. How is the doctor able to treat us if he isn't listening to us communicating our symptoms? It is silly to give a flu gab if all you need is an ointment for a rash.

Maggie Johnson

Posted by Hyacinth Rose-Manners at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
Does she have a book ok let me see what a search engine has on her work

Maggie Johnson

Posted by marion craven at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
Hya,
Ruth gave me the book title ‘How to help children hang on your every word’ written by Maggie. I wasn't able to find anything else.

Maggie Johnson ** Thanks

Posted by Hyacinth Rose-Manners at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
Great hot saet

I just read your opening statment

Posted by Hyacinth Rose-Manners at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
It takes so much time to navigate through this system I just read/found your opening statments.

The view of whose voice is being heard, I have taught in a one to one type of service to persons with dyslexic tendencies for a few years. I always start by asking the student why were you sent to me. the reply was always "I do not know" Parent or teacher did not share with them why they are to come to have special teaching removed from the class for a period.
I used that time to open the discussion and to inform them that they must ask questions at home and school about their ways of learning. I always ask them if think they are learning at school? Many of them are shy to speak about their attainment their self esteem is low I have to find their giftedness and remind them about it. I send them with the tools saying to them when you return please tell me what you have found out about the reason you are coming to me ask your teacher and your parents. They need to have a voice in their IEP.

I just read your opening statment

Posted by Jessica Jacob at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
That sounds like a positive approach. It gives them a sense of importance by including them in the process and decisions made. they need the respect, afterall, it is their life. I made sure my downs syndrome daughter was explained to about issues and provided options and explained why we chose to make certain decisions. She would also participate in the decision process having been given the facts. We would discuss the pros and cons. Come to conclusions together. It was quite positive.

I just read your opening statment

Posted by Gill Richards at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
Your approach also sounds so positive - I am sure that your daughter will develop into a young woman who will have confidence in her own decision making because of your approach. Where I have seen this work so well in the past, is that learners like your daughter then become role models for other learners, and other parents can see how it works and can gain confidence themselves to try the same approach.

I just read your opening statment

Posted by Gill Richards at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
I think that I have answered some of this in the reply above. Your idea of giving learners 'tools' is clearly really valuable, although I wonder how confident they are using these. You don't say how you prepare them to do use the tool - I guess that many may still find this difficult, especially if they do not receive a positive response from those asked!

Your last point about IEPs is really important - in my view, it is imperative that a learner has a voice about their programme and goals so that they are working towards something they value. I continue to be shocked at how often I hear that teachers set goals and IEPs for pupils and do not share them with the pupils, let alone share the planning of them, ofetn argued as necessary because learner do not understand or there is no time - imagine others in your life deciding what would be 'good' for you to do with your life, not telling you what you should be aiming for, and then deciding later that you have failed because you didn't meet the standard!
Some schools in our locality are really good at encouraging learner voice in IEPs and one has a lovely practice of sending a personalised letter to the learner after a review meeting saying (or drawing) a couple of key things that were positive and thanking them for their contribution.

this is so good

Posted by Hyacinth Rose-Manners at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
Great conversatation
Gill I appreciate this trend of discussion. I have noticed here and with teachers I have met who specialise in SEN or SpLD that we are either SEN or have children who are. I have met others who are in this feild as teachers when I was a teacher of the deaf the teachers were dogmatic in speaking out for the hearing impaired. The Hearing Impaired Club in a country I lived in in the Caribbean got rid of tthe teachers who were calling attention to themselves in the disguise of represententing the Hearing Impaired. They then voted their own deaf president, they then did their own research and got their drivers licences.
I have seen at special schools where the teachers orientated the students in such a way that the students become dependent on them the teacher.and the teachers glow in being the voice for "those helpless SEN". Some may be not articulate but know what is good for them more than the teacher and will like to tell us if given an opportunity.
Low self esteem is a result of them not having a voice and some express their fustration in negative behaviour.
Gill I think you ask how I asist them to use the "tool" of asking why they are having special classes. I them start educating both the parent ( many times the teacher also) and the student about SpLD or SEN telling them that I am SpLD also and have them ask questions. I do remember when I learnt to spell "prayer" I was a registered nurse working in accident and emergency and we were having a Nurses Week (1982)and I was preparing a poster and I spelt pray for prayer and another nurse quietly corrected me I never knew there was a difference.
I share these stories with my students as I teach them. I teach children reading and spelling I have learnt so much as I teach them. My husband says I can now spell LOl (Far from it) When I can't spell something while teaching I say we are all different can some one spell the word for us. then can some one check it in the dictionary please. I always walk with an electronic distionary which the children love to use I encourage parents to buy for their children but parents buy one for themselves first. SpLD is familial isen't it. The SpLD students then are not afraid to tell about themselves. Teacher is different tooo. We must learn more so we can speak out. Thanks for listening to me. Speak out others

this is so good

Posted by Gill Richards at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
Hya
I have certainly seen situations that you describe and it can be a tough call can't it - sometimes people start with the best of intentions and get carried away!
I think your approach is a strong one, I feel that it is important that we are not afraid to show that we too can be vulnerable, whatever our personal circumstances. I am hopeless at IT - I was keen to do this 'hot seat' but was really worried that I would mess up doing this on line, but so far so good!
The problem can come when schools start off being keen to have 'pupil voice' but then don't want to hear criticism and so limit what they ask and who they ask
Gill

Voice and Power

Posted by Jessica Jacob at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
It is a pleasure to to read your literature and meet you online.
I am currently working on this particular subject for my focus. The pupils' and parents' voice has been my concern for many years and now am glad to participate in research regarding this very topic.
In observing a variety of special needs implementations and passing of laws through the years, I often found more trial and error repeated. This brought me to the realize and question that in all the ideologies, are we concidering the Pupils' and parents' voices? May I also add, The teachers.
I am eager to find out more on Who selects which voices to hear. Who is in control? I look forward to more discussions with you. Thanks for your input.

Voice and Power

Posted by rgreen2 at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
Gill will be joining the discussion very soon but continue to post your questions and thoughts in readiness. Thanks, Ruth

I enjoy many parts of this course

Posted by Hyacinth Rose-Manners at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
Ruth,
I am having difficulty with unit 2 Methodology but I will address it in my group discussion in awhile. So last night I decided to read the book Action Research for Inclusive Education Changing places changing practices changing minds edited by Felicity Armstrong and Michele Moore. Jessi you would love to read it in Chapter 7 by Kathy Charles' She did a classroom action research what I would call- The voice of Joe- (Joe was described as autistic spectrum disorder) pg 92 said My aim was to use research action to find out more about Joe's perspective and subsequently help bringing about increasing inclusive practice in the classroom. The chapter spoke about all arrangments that were made to have Joe included, two that stood out were having him sit up front in class near to the teacher and sharing a book.When they heard Joe's views with the help of a peer assisting him to express it he said up front was too noisy students shouting to the teacher and at him and he could not concentrate and sharing the book where he was constantly being told it was the wrong page and others turning the page hightened his dilemma. No one ever asked him his perspective and these changes that were made specifically for his inclusion and they were working against him. "The Pupil's Voice" makes the difference

Voice and Power

Posted by Hyacinth Rose-Manners at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
My son is a teacher an art teacher who was afraid to teach because of his dyslexia, but now he does not want to leave for this same reason he said he has to stay to be a voice for the students. He spelt false wrong on the chalk board and he said to me "mum I did not know what to do because I do not write on the board because of my spelling" I said to him take this opportunity to teach the students about learning differences.
I have done discussion sessions on the topic "we are all special we are all different." SHARING THE CHARECTERISTICS OF DIFFERENT LEARNING DIFFICULTIES. Asking the question do you know any one with that description? Inevitably the answer is yes. And discussion begins.
I have to address this topic with a church drama group in two weeks time because we welcome all types in the gruop and we are experiencing the segregation already. any suggestions !!! I want an interactive session. I will have some one tell a story but I know he is not capable of writing it. When the others (I am sure they will) show how they enjoy the story he will tell them that he is never able to complete any thing he writes. He is a gifted story teller. I want to bring out characteristics of different learning differences & discussion. We need to have them celebrate their giftedness.

Jess Let us encourage the voice. I am dyslexic I take every opportunity to teach others about dyslexia and SEN in general. Many times I an told " do not say you are dyslexic" I always have to say but I am.

Voice and Power

Posted by Gill Richards at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
I love your idea about telling a story as an alternative to writing. Drawing, use of photos and role play also offer different learners to contribute their own way.

Unfiltered perspecptive

Posted by Hyacinth Rose-Manners at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
Can learners with communication difficulties express ‘unfiltered’ perspectives? can this mean that these learners are not being allowed to express themselves in their ways they understand themselves. as my example inin my saying I am dyslexic.

Thank you Ruth for this topic it is therapeutic.

Unfiltered perspecptive

Posted by Gill Richards at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
Hya
What I meant by 'unfiltered' views was that if learners need support to say what they think then the 'supporter' must be prepared to pass on exactly what the learner wants to say, not dilute it or change it or ignore parts!
Gill

Unfiltered perspecptive*** Thanks

Posted by Hyacinth Rose-Manners at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
Thanks Gill for unpacking the meaning of unfiltered. You are doing well with the IT Congratulations. Ask Ruth how many down monents I had with this IT I do still have challenges. But We push on and we learn.
Thanks again

Unfiltered perspecptive

Posted by Jessica Jacob at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
Wow, Hya! You do have a great deal to offer. I remember talking to a Mom friend from my boys school. Her son plays with Jeremy. they discovered that her son was dyslexic. She said in brief that," I know my son isn't smart." I was appalled. I quickly jumped at the chance to correct that fallacy.
More power to you. Educate, educate. the more people are enlightened the less the prejudice.

Good on you!

Voice and Power

Posted by Gill Richards at Sep 30, 2009 04:46 PM
I am glad you find this interesting. I think that your point about consideration of pupils' and parents' voices is interesting. Parents are often seen as pupils' advocates - but how are they prepared for this. Many parents may not find this easy to do, may lack the skills and time, or may jst been worn out by the constant 'battles' they encounter with 'professionals'. Also, as a parent myself, I am aware that when I sometimes speak 'on behalf' of my son, it can be tempting to put forward my views rather than his - although he tells me when I get it wrong! With learners who have difficulty in speaking out do not agree with their parents, it must be hard to contradict them.

I have written more about who selects which voices to hear in a chapter in a book that I edited with Felicity Armstrong last year - Key issues for teaching assistants. Working in diverse and inclusive classrooms (Routledge), if you want to read more. In there, I considered the temptation to only ask for articulate and positive voices - a concern expressed by learners themselves - one of whom stated, "They pick the best and the rest get played as fools".

Voices

Posted by Ruth Crosby-Stewart at May 21, 2010 10:39 PM
I find myself in the rather unique position of being able to teach a range of students including mainstream Year7, SEN Year 7,(MLD and SEND) and also SLD KS3 students. In our inclusive setting, where three schools are co-located upon the one site and where the buildings are not seperate but integrated I have access to many voices (as it were). Although the SLD students are more comfortable with the SEN provision - generally speaking, my personal experience is that the SEN students want to take part in whatever there is on offer in school. It seems to be the attitude of the staff that appears to be a barrier to learning! SEN staff have indicated that they think it would be in the best interests of all SEN students if they resist the move towards overhaulling the school uniform to smart shirt, clip on tie and blazer as they felt it would suit them best. yet, when I taught SLD students PSHE and cover the unit Debate, we debated this matter. I brought in actual clothing and let the students experience fastenings ec and with the exception of one SLD student, all SLD students expressed the desire to wear the 'mainstream' uniform. I personally am appaulled that SEN students haven't had their voice heard in this way and that decisions have been made on their behalf! I could go on and on with anecdotal evidence and wonder whether some SEN staff are reluctant to explore the possibilities of Inclusion becasue of some personal fears they personaaly may have in relation to 'exposing themselves' somehow? It's very early into my study but given that one VERY ASD student in my current placement has had an extremely successful Inclusion year in Year7 - when all staff involved in the placemant were not at all hopeful, its been a real pleasure to see the student grow within himself and be accepted by his peers. He has achieved and overcome so many challengin personal barriers to learning beacsue of his desire to be included and accepted that 'voices' spoken out' apparently on his behalf and in his best interests were so very totally off the mark.

Similar voices predict the outcomes of other individuals and almost sentence them to an educational experience deprived of mainstream experiences. As you can almost visualise - I'mon my soap box!